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Summer Rumblings

I hope you are busy enjoying the summer and have not been roped in by our national media’s latest manufactured crisis - the census issue. As mentioned in an earlier blog posting, I was asked to speak at the committee hearings about this - click here to watch. I told the committee that the threat of incarceration or fines is something that needs to go for sure - and that it is time to work together instead of just grabbing headlines.

What you do come to realize from the hue and cry from many special interests is that most people do not spend a lot of time worrying about issue. Unless of course you are one of the hundreds of fringe groups whose very existence relies upon exploiting census data as a justification for more money from all levels of government. Sorry for me being cynical about their “sky is falling” approach to any changes to the census - it is not difficult to discern their true motives. As for the national media, surely there are more important issues to worry about even during these dog days of summer.

Another topic that caught my eye was Parliamentary Budget Officer Kevin Page’s report on the federal government stimulus spending. You can read an article on this here. What I found amusing was him saying “the worst case scenario” is that $500 million does not get spent before the stimulus spending expires next year. Isn’t it really a good thing that all of that money does NOT get spent?

Is there a total disconnection here? This money is just funded by more debt that hard working Canadians, their kids, and their grandchildren will have to pay off. I for one wish that they would close off the stimulus spending taps much sooner.

I hope this email finds you and your family well and enjoying the remainder of the summer. As usual, your thoughts and comments are welcome.

Best Regards,

Peter Coleman
President and CEO
National Citizens Coalition


Comments

Vince Tuccitto says:

Stop the waste. issue Wages in the public sector.

Why does the equal work not get the equal pay. Someone needs to hold the government to taks.

submitted on August 11th, 2010 at 11:42 am

R. Max Wideman says:

I agree on both points.

submitted on August 11th, 2010 at 11:55 am

Brian Shamess says:

Could not agree more. Please write or billboard concerning this peripheral non headline issue concerning the census. Companies should pay for their data. Also, it is not a sad state of national affairs when NOT spending more borrowed money is a huge problem. I appreciate that borrowed funds can often assist businesses and countries get through cash flow crunches. But it has to end somewhere and surpluses is absolutely the way to go. Live within our national Canadian GDP envelope and needs and stop borrowing. Thanks for
excellent work.

submitted on August 11th, 2010 at 12:01 pm

Chris says:

Yep, the inmates are in charge. Any thinking person knows this is a manufactured issue. The special interests are always trying to hijack the national agenda to feed their entitlement programs. 98% of Canadians could care less about the “long form census.” It’s just like all the other left-wing media created “issues,” whether it is the “Afghan detainee issue,” the “Khadr issue”… the list goes on and on. Engaged citizens know about the famous Canadian media bias, and don’t listen to these “non-issues.” Just wait, you’ll soon here about the Tamils approaching BC and the fact that they’re going into “overcrowded jails” and isn’t that just so sad. Who cares - send these illegals back and report on the issues Canadians care about.

submitted on August 11th, 2010 at 12:30 pm

D. Ludtke says:

As usual the eastern media/left wing nuts are at it again, trying to manufacture a gov crises in hopes of getting there liberal friends back in power. As most of us realize, this is a non issue except for those fringe groups who hold the taxpayers hostage in this country. Mr Cloeman & Mr Harper, keep up the good work and NEVER bend to their pressures.

submitted on August 11th, 2010 at 12:38 pm

J.L.Waters says:

Thank you for those comments and, please forward them to those recycled, hasbeens in the liberal party, i.e. loud of mouth MR. Bob R for one in that trouble making party and many others along with him, we are sick of the sight and sound of all of them.

Lets have a majority party and a little more peace in OUR country
Regards

submitted on August 11th, 2010 at 1:04 pm

DougB says:

The census thing is definitely a manufactured “problem”. If any government needs more than names, ages, and addresses, they should be turfed out as being incompetent. If lower levels of government need more information, THEY should do their own census (seems to me that they do that anyway). If any “fringe group” needs information, they should post a survey in local news papers, or on the internet. If anybody is silly enough to respond, perhaps they may be able to build a case for whatever it is they support.

As for the “stimulus spending”, most of that should never have happened in the first place. Now, we are saddled with a huge debt, that will slow down recovery. Hopefully, it won’t still be hung around out necks by the time the next downturn comes around (and it will). We were just starting to pay off the previous downturn when the 2008 downturn came along. Now, it will take even longer to pay it all off. “Stimulus spending” is always far too late to do any good. It always slows the recovery, and makes it more difficult for the recovery to happen. Of course, it is the same groups who demand that we spend horrendous amounts of money on a long form census, who also demand that the government bury us in debt, for any passing reason that they can think of.

Never in the field of political conflict has so much been asked by so few of so many … for so little.

submitted on August 11th, 2010 at 1:32 pm

Keith says:

Perhaps someone could explain where all of this stimulus money is coming from seeing that we (Canada) are in debt?

I have found it very amusing that the census fiasco has become an issue. I really believe that the opposition, being the opposition, has placed the Conservatives wanting to do away with the long form at the forefront because they want to form the next government and that they will do anything to make the Conservatives look stupid in the eyes of the electorate.

I am not a Stephen Harper fan so my comments are not coming from a Liberal supporter but from one who sees the Liberals trying to take advantage of what I consider to be a non issue. I would be saying the same thing if it were the Liberals in power. The one thing that I detest about politics are the attacks from opposition parties for the sole purpose of encouraging the electorate to vote for their party. I am waiting for the day when politicians of all stripes will realize that many Canadians are fed up with the way our so called representive MPs and MPPs deal with the way we are governed. I wonder how low the voter turnout will have to be before they realize that Canadians are not getting the better or best government we deserve. The politicians can make excuses all they want about voter turnout being low stating that, for example: people are too lazy to vote and would rather be home playing on their computers, (an MP actually stated this to me) but face the reality that governments over the years have shown themselves to be more self serving the people serving; being dishonest; being liars, e.g. making promises they don’t plan to keep in order to get elected; and as some comments I’ve heard and read, as being crooks. The image of the politician from what I’ve seen is very low in the eyes of many Canadians.

submitted on August 11th, 2010 at 3:36 pm

Roger Jones, P.Eng, SMIEEE says:

For Kevin Page: Worst case scenario is if the balance of the unspent “stimulus” funds are actually spent.

submitted on August 11th, 2010 at 8:40 pm

Jake Van Damme says:

Peter
I could not agree more with your comments. There is however one other issue that needs attention. Stockwell Day was vilified for the (granted, somewhat clumsy) comments he made about unreported crimes. The media had a hayday, but lost in all this media glee is the fact that many crimes do not get officially reported to the police. And Stats Canada definitely has figures on that.(As per National Post). I am a construction contractor and when we have lumber or building materials stolen from our work sites we do no longer report it to the police. Mainly because nothing ever comes from it and if by chance a perpetrator is identified, chances are no charges are laid or there is a judge who strongly believes in the inherent goodness of criminals and lets them off with a slap on the wrist. Compensation for our loss is never cotemplated. So yes as far as I am concerned build more prisons and use them when warranted. I believe that would be a much better use of my tax dollars then paying for rebuilding part of Toronto destroyed by criminal anarchists after the G 20 meeting.

submitted on August 11th, 2010 at 9:50 pm

Hugh Campbell says:

Hmmm, The constitution came home and we lost property rights. The emphasis or purpose of law in Canada was not longer the protection of the citizens of Canada but the rehabilitation of criminals. The RCMP lost their writ of assistance so now drug searches can take a 1500 page brief in order to get a warrant. The human rights commission spends millions in order to strip Canadians of their free speech. The wheat broard——etc, etc, etc. and now the social engineers want to put ordinary Canadian citizens in jail for not responding to their demands for information. No wonder people are saying that they will give false information and no wonder the respect for government in Canada takes another hit. Hugh Campbell

submitted on August 12th, 2010 at 12:54 am

Lloyd Barber says:

Canada is an acknowledged world leader for it’s statistical system. One of the reasons for this has been a scrupulous “hands off” policy by successive governments over the years.Interference runs the risk of eroding trust in the information produced by Statistics Canada. Once trust is gone it is unlikely to be regained.

submitted on August 12th, 2010 at 11:50 am

Foon Der says:

World leader for its statistical system, acknowledged by whom? Okay, and we also have good financial oversight, that’s two. What about our broken medicare system and our long waiting lists for surgery? What about the CBC? What about our ‘Human Rights Commissions? What about inter-provincial trade barriers? That’s two for and four against. This garbage about the unreliability of voluntary census data is just an excuse for lazy statisticians who should be able to work with any data set. Who is to say that the random DISTRIBUTION of long forms is any more accurate than the random voluntary RETURN of long forms? I agree with Peter that the groups squawking the loudest are the ones who perceive that they could lose some of their funding and they have been brainwashed by the chorus of folks who are suddenly statistical experts. And I was going to fudge all my answers if I was given the long form but now I won’t have to bother returning it.

submitted on August 13th, 2010 at 3:29 am

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