Ok… what do you propose we do with the environment. Adopt the Conservative plan and stick our heads in the oil sands and hope for the best. Wake up please. The Liberals plan may not be the best but at least it is a step forward.

I have supported NCC in its noble efforts to support the troops. For that I thank you for your efforts. However, if you are going to blindly support the Conservatives in the one major area of policy that they have absolutely no idea what they are talking about I am afraid I will have to withdraw my support for your organization.

Again, thank you for your efforts on behalf of the troops.

Kind Regards,

Loren Mallett

Dion’s plan is just a flawed and opportunistic attempt to capitalize on fearmongering among the “Global Warming” and “Death of the Planet” crowd. The idea is totally ridiculous - inflation will soar as all goods and services are repriced to recapture the added costs; and Ontario, already burdened by recession, will face something akin to depression. In fact, studies have shown that hydro bills will increase by 20% in Ontario (but very little in Quebec which has access to much more hydro-electric power)! And all this to address a problem that Canada contributes to in an extremely minor way! There are a lot of good ways to address the issue but, unfortunately, Dion is planning none of the common sense ideas.

Dion’s “Green Shift” would better be called the “Green Shaft” plan!!!

I believe Dion’s tax-grab is outrageous! Please, Mr. Dion, cease this talk of a carbon tax. Fellow voters, if he continues to threaten us with it, please vote against him!

I read somewhere that the total atmosphere of the Earth is made up of only one per cent of “GHG”.
Most of that GHG is water vapour and “is a greater insulator than C02″.
This whole carbon causing Global Warming or “Climate Change”is a total public scam.

It`s sickening to see the Big LIe become “truth”.

-CO2 is not a pollutant.

-Temperatures have flat lined or fallen since 1998 YET CO2 concentrations have gone up by about 5%. So the IPCC +CO2 runaway feedback loop theory is proven false.

-CO2 does not antedate temperature increases. Temperature increases first, CO2 follows behind by up to 800 years.Temperatures have both risen and fallen during the period atmospheric CO2 has been rising. CO2 only plays a very minor part in climate change and man-made CO2, even less.

-CO2 is only about 0.038% of the atmosphere and only 3.6 per cent of greenhouse gases. Of that only 3.4 to 5% is man-made. CO2 as a result of man’s activities was only 3.2 per cent of that, hence only 0.12 per cent of the greenhouse gases in total. Human-related methane, nitrogen dioxide and CFCs etc made similarly minuscule contributions to the effect: 0.066, 0.047 and 0.046 per cent respectively.

-Spending and wasting billions if not trillions to redistribute wealth(Kyoto) and creating a precursor to a command and control economy only to reduce the earth`s temperature by about 0.003055225 °C by the year 2050 or so, is just not worth it.

The real danger in the Green Shift peoposal is that because of the universal nature of energy in economic activity the tax will create so many anomalies an army of bureacrats will be rwquired to allow Ottawa to create its”Brave New World”. More freedom through less government indeed !

Loren Mallett is the one with misguided views as a result of the activist and media propaganda on this issue.
Canada could ban all heating, travelling and forbid any use of any carbon fuel and have zero emissions and the effect on the planet would be so small as to defy measurement.
Punishing Canadians and Canada’s economy to accomplish nothing is foolish beyond understanding.
The proposed tax to transfer the wealth of the West to Central Canada again is unhealthy for nation unity.

I just read an analysis byt a pensioner (low income, low taxes). He calculates that Dion’s “neutral” plan will cost him an average of $44 a month, and his tax savings will be $10 a month. In this “enlightened” plan nobody gets hurt worse than the poor.

New Carbon Tax will hit everybody. The average person driving to work, which whom we need working. Would make government bigger again, like the GST has done. We need less government intervention, not more. On our world market, China, India etc. will no implement this, so we can NOT if we want to keep our standard of living from somewhat declining. NO NEW TAXES!!! DON’T VOTE LIBERAL OR NDP!!!

Gentlemen,
Yes, the consumer will pay as they always do. In Scandinavia, the cost of gas in twice our price, and they are still driving their cars. A few years when we paid only 65 cents a liter and we paid $1 for a bottle of water, we did not complain about the cost of water. We are all into this because of the HOAX that the human part of the CO2 emission is said to cause Global Warming (GW). However, the human part is a fraction of a percentage of the natural CO2 emission which is about 4% of the greenhouse gasses. Further, CO2 is not a pollutant, it is a nutrient. In Sweden, they pump it through big green houses and the plants grow 30% faster. Because of GW nonsense, we now have a manmade oil shortage, a manmade food shortage and soon a manmade world recession. The environmental NGO’s are in complete control and the general public is ignorant. The politicians can tell you anything and you will believe it. We need to start to develop clean burning coal fired power plants, clean burning waste fired power plants, nuclear power plants and hydro plants. The technology for clean burning plants is there, but the environmental activists do not want you to know. You can educate yourself. Everything is on the internet. Take a look at www.friendsofscience.com

I agree, the Federal Liberal’s plan is ill conceived but the NCC is in danger of being dismissed as having no concern for the environment or future generations. Do the majority of NCC members believe Canadians should take no responsibility for or try to reduce our higher than average carbon footprint? I doubt that. I believe the NCC should be showing more concern and be proposing ways for Canadians to take constructive action without seriously impacting the economy. Leaving it up to governments alone will prove disastrous.

It’s too bad the National Citizen’s Coalition has become a dinosaur. You guys just don’t get it. You cannot continue to spew crap into the atmosphere and get away with it. Pay now, or pay more later. At least with a tax shift, I can minimize what I pay by being more efficient.

As a Conservative, I love Dion’s plan because it could lead to a Conservative majority next election. Ironically, I expect that the NCC campaign may prove redundant because the Dion Carbon Tax is so misguided to begin with & this will become abundantly clear at election time. Just consider the following facts:

Canada produces approx. 5% of total carbon emissions. Even if we use draconian tax measures to strip that back to say 3%, how is that going to “save the planet?”. That reduction will not even come close to offsetting the combined growing carbon energy and emission use in China, India and South America! For Canada, to follow Dion and virtually implode its economy under these circumstances would be shear madness.

Harper together with the other leading nations on this planet, have got it right. At the recent G8 conference it was identified that there could be no serious progress until all major carbon producers - including China & India - have been brought on side. The good news is that they appear to be getting closer to achieving that!

I seem to remember from my school days 70 years ago that CARBON MONOXIDE is fatal if inhaled. . . CARBON DIOXIDE is essential for sustaining life.

It seems that politicians dislike to be confused by facts, especially at election time.

The Green Shift is the Green Shaft for all Canadians. There is no plan to reduce carbon emissions from Dion, only to create another Liberal tax grab that wil be passed on to every consumer in Canada through increased costs. It also is a direct attack on Alberta to try to transfer Alberta’s wealth to Central Canada. Since Garth Turner likes to insult both Alberta and Quebec this type of Plan will surely ignite separatists in Alberta to leave confederation. Then where would Central Canada be?

A rose by any other name still smells as sweet - a tax by any other name stinks even more!

Buzzwords! Buzzwords!

Enough is Enough: surely “revenue neutral” and “carbon footprint” have to be the most fatuous ever to be launched by politicians and bureaucrats

No one will have the remotest idea of what they are talking about, but the important thing is that no one is going to admit it.

The world, Canada, and particularly B.C., is suffering a wave of global warming hysteria thanks to the likes of Al Gore et al who refuse to acknowledge the fact that the public has been exposed to considerable misinformation on mankind’s role in ever-present climate change. There is considerable scientific evidence that the rate of global temperature increase, rise in mean sea level and Co2 concentration in the atmosphere are not as we have been lead to believe. The real need to substantially reduce our “carbon footprints” in order to prevent global warming is highly suspect. Carbon taxes or trading schemes are likely to do little for the world but will certainly have to most serious economic conswquences on Canada.

I hear the Liberals are being sued a million dollars for stealing the name “Green Shift” from an actual company with that name.

EASY WAY OUT Mr. Dion: Change it to “GREEN SHAFT” which would be more honest as well.

FACT: Canada accounts for only 2% of GHG’s. We can close the country, stop driving our cars, stop heating and air-conditioning our homes, and the effect would be ZERO!!!!
Not only that, since Globbal warming is also happening on Mars, how do we get the Martians to cooperate if we allow China, Russia and India to continue to polute? Come on all you lefties, SMARTEN UP!!!!

“This is nothing more than a political vote grab. ” HUH?

So you are saying the Liberal carbon tax will be popular with voters? Think about it. Aren’t the politicans supposed to present canadians with what we want?

If you want to talk about political vote grabbing let’s go back to Harper’s BIGGEST LIE “I will never TAX INCOME TRUSTS”!

I’ll take Mr. Dion’s carbon tax any day over trusting a Con every again.

Over recent years I have learned much about the meaning of politics in Canada. Most of our politicians have turned hypocrite and no longer represent essential concerns nor grass roots issues. Our government instead only focuses on Quebec (Harper especially - he has turned his back on English Canada in quest for power and Quebec popularity. Responsibly I will never vote again in this country until there is a new political voice and one that speaks for the majority. Democracy no longer exists in Canada. Yes we have the freedom to vote for whoever we wish but then afterwards the government listens to no one and does only as they are determined. Social engineering is all about French this and French that. For documented testimonials of political issues occuring in Canada, please visit: www.canadadivided.com And if you wish to hear some sentiment expressed in opposition to fascist behaviour in Canada, watch: YouTube video: Democracy Denied in Canada Link: http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=f41jFwrO1qk

And the Carbon Tax Credit proposal is just another tax grabbing scheme that will add to the burden of Mister Little Guy in Canada. Is it not good time that we unite our initiatives and exist as one Canadian family. Otherwise we should let Canada divide into distinct unities where each province becomes a sovereign nation and where the success of a province is shared amongst its own people rather than contributing to Quebec’s double standard society.

Harper’s got it right, politically. We all play, or no one plays. The problem will come if enough countries say “OK”, but then only the ethical nations actually bite the bullet. Canada can’t afford to beggar its economy so we can “do the right thing” politically. Economically, we would end up being dead right.

The real problem is the loaded science. The issue remains unproved. The IPCC Report, carefully edited by non-scientific UN bureaucrats so as to ignore contrary scientific opinions, while helping the Gores & the Suzukis to line their pockets & inflate their egos, was a majority opinion (at the time) of scientists trying to be politically correct by jumping in front of the parade of “green” do-gooders.

None of the scientific proponents seem interested in challenging the scientific naysayers with sound, scientific argument. Or if they are doing so, our feckless media (except the National Post) is keeping mum.

Why is Mars experiencing GW just like planet Earth? What about the “little ice ages” of recent (geologically) history? How long ago was it that Greenland was a fertile island? What, truly, is the solar influence on GW? What’s the deal on the radically reduced sunspot activity of the last few years and the impact of this variable phenomenon on Earth over the last 10,000 years?

CBC & The Liberal Party want Harper & Dion to duke it out in front of the cameras to “resolve” the issue? How about providing us mere mortals with some intelligent, meaningful debate among scientists with opposing views, instead of more Question Period?

GW’s projected disasterous impact is not like “The Law of Gravity”. It’s an opinion. If, indeed, we are all truly on the Titanic, Canada, with one-half of one percent of the world population, shouldn’t be the only one bailing.

DION AND THE LIBERAL CARBON TAX IS NOTHING
MORE THAN A MONEY GRAB FOR THE BENIFET OF QUEBEC.

Dion’s Carbon Tax (his use of the title ‘Green Shift’ is the subject of a law suit) is so out of touch with reality that when he tries to defend it he is perceived as being demented and incoherent. Canada has never had a ‘revenue neutral’ tax of any kind, and this one is a blatent lie. Using his website ‘calculator’, I have determined that as a senior living on OAS, my cost of living will increase by at least 14%. My income is so low that I am not required to pay income tax, so no proposed tax cut or credit will be of any benefit to me. There are hundreds of thousands of Canadians who are no better off than I, and they too will be faced with Dion’s specious plan. But the Liberals don’t care. This is another of their socialist frauds, like Official Bilingualism that costs Canadians more than $24 Billion per year.

“No man’s life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session” - Mark Twain
Politicians are not Scientists.
Scientists can be manipulated by Politicians and vice versa.
Biodiversity and smart environmentalism, not a fixation on any one thing (carbon) is the answer.

Why did Dion not apply the tax to automotvie exhausts? What! and lose all those eastern votes-Ha!
Besides I happen to be a “denier” and am not convinced that man has caused nor can our puny efforts stop Global Warming. It is likely a natural occurrence./I do believe we need to clamp down on pollution and enforce existing pollution laws to the fullest.And as a Conservative I agree our side has not done a good job in this regard.I really mistrust any Government,let alone Liberals, with tax revenue of this magnitude based on past performances and therefore cannot agree with DIon’s plan

The best way to destroy a society is to get it to destroy itself.

when Trudeau was in he punished western Canada with his oil and shipping practices, now we have one of his disciples about to do it again.
No matter how much you tax an oil co, they will simply add it on top, plus a little.
Consider the beaurocracy required to police this tax—who pays it YOU.
Consider what segment by sheer number is the largest tax plumb to be picked —-Middle class Canadians.
And after the beaurocracy and the oil co`s have taken their profits (read costs) and the divided the spoils exactly how much will Canadians get back in the way of refunds. Answer a much reduced standard of living

Dion,s carbon tax is nothing but an elesction ploy that willl end up costng the country dearly,economically and increase an already burgeonmg civil sevice

Imposing another tax, this time Carbon Tax, on Canadians is just another way to gouge money out of us. How much more are you going to milk us? We are already bled white.

Do politicians know that one out of 5 children in Canada is poor? That means they do not have enough food to eat, enough or no clothes to wear, no entertainment, etc. And Canada is not a poor country. At least for the time being. Why are you making it poor? What is being done to reduce poverty?

One of the reasons why Rome fell was high taxes imposed on its citizens. We never learn from history.

GLOBAL WARMING: more politics than science.

How can you expect the average scientifically ignorant person who is going to live only 60 to 80 years to understand that there are events that occur over a period of thousands and even millions of years. Yes, there is global warming but it didn’t start this year or even last year. Nor can you stop it anymore than you can stop the world from turning. The Gores and so-called environmentalists are jousting at windmills. Get real and get on with life. And be sure to read Warren Adamson’s post.

The sky is not falling, unless your name is Suzuki.

We must plan better for our future and start taking a smarter approach to environmental impacts. CO2 is the talk of the town but what about real life altering pollutants that we see over the larger developed area? Look at Toronto and the GTA. Smog Advisories or Air quality alerts even right here in Halton now. Its not the way I want to live, battling heart and lung problems. We must get serious on the approach we take to development and what kind and amount of emissions are going to be tolerated.

Also lets take a look at the junk we buy overseas. China is huge and constructing new coal fired plants every 2-3 weeks. AND WE ARE SUPPORTING THAT at the same time griping about GLOBAL emissions. If we really want to reduce emissions, then we have to stop purchasing “junk” becuase it happens to be the fad of the day and begin buying practical items.
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The Left as usual is out in left field. The temporary measure put in place in 1917 to fund Canada’s war effort turned into a perpetual income tax that will never be removed. The high income surtax and Paul Martin’s deficit tax are recent examples of so-called temporary taxes supposedly for a specific purpose that are now fixtures of the tax system. If carbon tax is put in place it will be there forever and will not be solely dedicated to fight climate change. It will go into general revenue just like CPP and EI. I am tired of social engineers like Suzuki trying to impose their view of the world on the rest of us, trying to justify their intrusion by telling us it is for the sakes of our children and grand-children. I think it is about his Foundation and every other Foundation that is preying on the fears of ignorant and uneducated folks who can’t think for themselves. If CO2 is such a problem why is it only 400 PPM and how can such a small concentration of a gas be the cause of the sky is falling in? There needs to be more empirical evidence than what I have seen. I heard that China and India have not agreed to the reductions that the G8 have reached. The NGOs are trying to hit industry but how about reducing consumption of fossil fuel but are leaving out the other half of the equation. If you reduce demand you will automatically reduce output. taxing supply will result in the cost being passed along to the consumer. The Green Shift is like many government ideas strong on ideals but short of implementation and effectiveness. These are the same guys who implemented the long gun registry which has had little if no impact on long gun homicides. The handgun restriction has not resulted in elimination of handgun homicides. Prohibition did not remove alcohol from citizens, just made Al Capone rich. The addition of a tax on carbon production will not by itself reduce fossil fuel consumption. It just siphons off more money so that a very few will benefit from government initiated green solutions. meanwhile the rest of us have to drive to work, drive our kids to [soccer or baseball or hockey or basketball or gym or swimming or skiing or badminton, etc.] practice and games/competitions. Canadians need to heat their homes to 18 degrees Celsius. I see reductions in driving across country for holidays, possibly a reduction in the number of campers on the backs of large trucks, possibly a reduction in the number of “motorhomes-Winnebagos, etc”. That even begs the question of whether 400 PPM of CO2 is a problem. I have asked and never gotten an answer for why do “environmentalists” cite figures for how much Gross-GHG is going into the air but cannot readily tell me how much NET-GHG remains in the air after being taken out. CO2 is a necessity for plants. I am prepared to do my part in reducing my carbon footprint by I object to government taxation as an effective tool. Education and regulation which is synchronized to similar actions by other countries is the fair way. No way is it fair for me to cut my carbon imprint and have it negated by the two biggest countries in the world. Suzuki if you want to make a big impact move to china or India and try to influence their public policy. A one percent reduction in India would be like a 5% reduction in Canada. Our actions are not a planet saver. We need to limit our purchase of goods made in China or India to slow down their economies. It would be impossible for a small group of green guys to make all the right decisions to make use of the carbon tax money. Considering all of the aforementioned information I will do as much as I can to keep the ecofreaks out of the decision making process so that their misguided social engineering does not screw us Canadians.

Some of the comments here are worrying. The number of people who say CO2 is not a pollutant causing global warming because plants breath it (untrue) and the number of people who point to climatic anomalies to try to disprive the correlations between emissions and climate change are disturbing.

Climate is subject to many natural variants. Ash from volcanic eruption can temporarily cool the planet to a slight extent, as can some forms of industrial emissions, mostly rendered obsolete due to inefficiency and health concerns. CO2, however, is a clear emission that traps heat, rather than blocking it.

Relatively “small amounts” of CO2 can cause significant shifts in climate. The change in atmospheric composition of CO2 changes very slowly in nature. Its the relative suddenness of the change that’s the real problem.

Commentators: objections to the Tax Shift are one thing, but when you get the science so foolishly wrong so often, you sound like the flat earth society and discredit the entire position this site is working for. There are intelligent objections to the Plan to be made, don’t take up space with goofiness.

Global Warming…….please let us have some! Today’s daytime high here in west central Alberta 15C! This is July!

Your comments on the Liberal approach are right on. However, although the Conservatives are taking a preferable approach, they are out to lunch on this issue too because they are talking cap and trade…
— taxes (L) have never ever succeeded in changing specific behaviours
— cap and trade (C) will not change behaviour significantly either, but speculators (e.g. Al Gore) will make a fortune!

And taxpayers will be pay the price for failed policy and enriching speculators.

I am a long time oponent of Kyoto which is generally recognised to be a poorly disguised attempt by the U N and simple minded socialists to shift wealth from the rich to the poor. Enviromentalism is of course a new real opportunity for the left masking worn out policies in a green cloak.But the Dion plan using of course the word green is obviously nothing more than a typical Liberal tax and spend plan.With the Tory m oves to reduce the surplus the Liberals had to get the funds from somewhere to pay for their wastefull programmes so the perfect way is focus on Canadians supposed love of all things enviromental and hope that Canadians dont spot the CON .Good luck to the N.C.C.inesposing this sham.
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I remember, over the last 60 years, all the “5 year plans” , “13 year plans”, rent controls, price freezes etc. ad nauseam produced by the Soviets, the English Labour Party, the Social Planners and other people who delight in CONTROL. And all the time, we the folks who believe in the freedom of the human spirit and the ability of our scientists and entrepreneurs to further our general quality of life, won. Time after time after time we won.
And time after time people like Dion pop up to tax and stifle and choke us.
It is time to freeze these people out. Will the human race never learn that it is that wonderful freedom of the individual that truly matters.
If we accept global warming (no matter what the cause) our scientists can begin to develop ways to prevent human exacerbation of the problem, human ways to anticipate and learn to live with climate changes and make a healthy industry out of selling (or giving) these developments to the rest of the world.
I am sick to death of social planners. And sick of Dion and his sort of social engineering. JD

Dear Canadians:
The proposal of a carbon tax on fuel is another tragic example of Canadian politician’s solution to government overspending. It is time the Canadian people demand all our politicians accept the role of leadership and accountability to the people. All government programs should be analyzed for the benefits to the people versus the financial and hardship costs to the people. Official Bilingualism is a prime example of a government policy in existence since 1969 that has provided no visible benefits the majority of Canadians but has imposed hardship, loss of jobs and increased the cost to Canadian business and Canadian governments at all levels in hundreds of billions of dollars. There are of course other programs and policies requiring closer scrutiny but the end of the Official Languages Act is very obvious to the majority of Canadian Citizens even though our politicians lack the leadership to make the change to a Unilingual English Policy.
Yours truly,
Ken Kellington, 1046-B SimpsonAvenue, Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan. S6H 4M8. Tel: 306-6938522. E-mail: kenkellington@Yahoo.com

Green Shift to separation! very serious! The only green things I know is Trees are green, grass is green, money is green,(used to be) climate change green??? paper bags green??? driving cars green??? & Dion’s green scarf won”t do it. Why are so many people so readily brain washed. What if our climate is getting colder? We will have a bigger problem growing corn for food let alone for fuel for our vehicles

Comments the refer to the flat earth are useless and amounts to name-calling. What is needed is for the scientific proof not extrapolations designed to prove one’s point. Where is the proof that small amounts of CO2 can cause significant shifts in climate other than statements by someone who interprets that way? The debate continues and everyone is entitled to their opinion. They are all opinions since climate science is not true science like math, physics or chemistry.

Leaving aside the idea of man-made global warming (which is based on very shaky science, to say the least, and I speak as a scientist), the one problem we do seem to be facing is that oil supplies are becoming tight. This problem is exacerbated by the fact that much of our oil comes from politically unstable parts of the world. Sooo …. we need to wean ourselves off oil by developing alternate energy sources. The market is doing this already: high oil prices = incentives to develop and market high efficiency vehicles, for example. Governments can help this process along by funding basic research in this area, which is one thing that governments can do well and industry doesn’t do particularly well. However, hysterically blanketing everything with additional taxes (and additional they will be - forget the ‘revenue neutral’ claims) as Mr. Dion wants to do will achieve nothing, except possibly getting a few more votes for the Liberals, always assuming that the collective intellect of the Canadian electorate takes a nosedive next election.

Dion plans to tax diesel but not gasoline.
Diesel fuel produces less C02 than gasoline, if this program is supposed to reduce C02 emissions it is exactly backwards.
But then Kyoto was a plan that would have transferred production from clean industry in Canada to dirty industry in China, so what else is new?
So far the only proposal I’ve seen from Dion that wouldn’t increase pollution is him naming his dog Kyoto, and I’m not too sure about that.

Roger’s comments are intelligent discussion without the putdowns that the disciples of Suzuki try to use to suppress opposition. The current cost of oil reflect the supply and demand. In my University days our economics prof warned us that if the developing world especially China ever achieve the G7(now G8) level of personal prosperity there will be an explosion of demand on the world’s resources to accommodate their new standard of living. I observed the beginning of that revolution when I was in China 10 years ago just as their economy was starting to take-off. Today the prophetic words of my economics professor are materializing as millions of Chinese families are able to take to the road. We who have had this privelege for so long are in denial that the rest of the world is catching up. The oil shortage is not a conspiracy of the financial markets. The cushion that used to be there to dampen prices increases has disappeared and production is barely matching consumption. We have to eventually abandon our SUVs, motorhomes, pick-up trucks for more efficient vehicles but that will only delay the inevitable. Alternative renewable mobile energy sources will have to be found (and quickly) because the supplies of fossil fuels are finite. The Carbon Tax and Cap & Trade are futile attempts to sell half-baked plans will not solve the problem of energy for personal transportation. Stephane please look beyond getting a few more votes and propose ways to wean the country off fossil fuel and perhaps enable us to reduce emissions. That will be more effective than the misguided effort to punish everyone for behaving normally. PS My vote is one vote and is no more or no less than anyone else’s vote (or opinion).

Carbon Tax: What a pack of lies.But then what do you expect from a liberal government that gave us the NEP (national energy policy), the Gun registry and Ad Scam and kyoto. The NEP was supposed to level the field as far as energy costs were concerned, but in truth Alberta was becoming an economic threat to Ontario and that just wouldn’t do. So a vindictive Liberal leader (Trudeau) set out to make things right. thus the NEP to RAPE Alberta and bring the up-starts back in line. HARK a new NEP in the disguise of a carbon tax. Again by a vindictive Liberal government.(remember the Liberals can’t and never will get a seat in Alberta because of Trudeau) Of course it’s a tax shift: from Alberta & Sask to Ontario & Quebec. Another RAPE about to happen???? As with most criminal acts, if we’re warned in advance, we can prevent it! The proper name for this tax grab would be “THE TAX SHAFT” Don’t be fooled, this tax will affect absolutly everything in Canada, from fuel and transportation to food and housing. I would hope that Ontarion’s are smart enough to figure out that they also will see a horendous increase in the cost of living. If this should ever become law there will be no other choice but for Alberta to seperate.

Gentlemen, lets get one thing straight

THE GASES THAT COMPRISE EARTH`S ATMOSPHERE

NITROGEN 76.55%
OXYGEN 20.54%
WATER VAPOR 1.95%
ARGON 0.91%
MISC. GASES 0.01%

Please note Mr. S Dion and Mr. G. Campbell

CARBON DIOXIDE? 0.04%

NOW, STOP TRYING TO SCARE THE PUBLIC BY GIVING OUT FALSE INFORMATION, AND, NEXT TIME? DO YOUR HOMEWORK NOT MOUTHING OFF ABOUT THINGS THAT YOU KNOW SO LITTLE ABOUT

MODERATION? NO THANK YOU, FACTS ARE FACTS AND IF YOU DON`T WAN`T TO PRINT THE TRUTH? THEN DON`T PRINT ANYTHING.
THE EXPERTS HAVE WRITTEN ABOUT, NOT POLITIANS WHO WILL SAY ANYTHING TO GET VOTES AND STAY IN POWER OVER US.

I have said it before and I will say it again. THe Liberals are NEVER about fixing our country’s problems. They are for taxing us and spending our money in their back rooms. Let’s all accept that we have to leave a smaller footprint. Start at home, teach your children and have some common sense when it comes to politics. The Liberal party has for years stolen money from our pockets for their greater good. Let’s see what a majority Conservative Government can do, they seem to have alot of common sense, run by a common man. Let’s not forget what the Liberals have done, speak loud on Election Day.

Amazing - so many people with brains! And yet we still have the most dictatorial governments - along with the al gores (who live in huge houses fly their planes out them and have more than any needed amenities - all on the backs of those stupid enough to support them) Whoever Foon Der is - there is some hope for BC - not much, but some - keep up the good work NCC -gf

There is no such thing as a revenue neutral tax. Taxes cost we,the consumer, money. The costs are passed along to us no matter who the taxes are collected from. A whole new systen will have to be put in place to monitor and collect these taxes. The west will suffer the worst but in the end all Canadians will suffer

Hello - while I’m unsure of your real politics and the reason I’m not a NCC member - perhaps your readers should know that the wet coast liberal junkie, god campbell has already “given” BC a similar “revenue neutral tax”. Those of us on fixed incomes will suffer mightily this coming winter if our summer gas costs are any indication of that fact!-gf

A tax shift means that the carbon tax will be equivalent to the reduction in other taxes. Hence what they mean by revenue neutral is the amount of taxes paid stays the same. The only difference is the government has to use that the money from the carbon tax towards cleaner and renewable energy sources. Innovations and new fuel technology will not be administered by the government but rather through the market in which consumer behaviours and industries will be the main drivers in the direction fuel technology goes. As such, there would be more employment opportunities in the non-fossil fuel industries than ever before. On the note of carbon dioxide levels, it is not so much If you look at Sweden, they had a carbon tax that has been in place since 1991 and their carbon is now taxed at $150 per ton, which is not posing a problem for them because a huge percentage of their energy generation comes from sustainable, non-carbon fuels such as biomass from forest and forest industry wastes. Every sector of their society is mostly run by cleaner fuels, which is now a lot cheaper than fossil fuels because of the tax. Aside from the few industries that require carbon fuels, and industries pay a lot less carbon tax, they are still trying to shift to renewable energy sources even when their emissions are already very low from innovations in fuel efficiency. What is interesting is the fact that while reducing emissions, their economy grew 48% since the implementation, refuting the argument that lowering emissions will hinder the economy.
However, I know that the impacts can vary from country to country depending on many factors. Canada is a suitable candidate for bioenergy because of its vast forest areas and large forestry industry. Therefore, Canada should have no problem adjusting to the change in fuel usage. This goes beyond petty political nonsense to saving lives where environmental degradation and climate change have the worst impacts. We are lucky enough to have not experienced them, but that cannot be held true for other countries where natural disasters are rampant and more violent due to climate change. I implore everyone, please make informed opinions free from any political or personal bias based solely on hatred. If you believe that the government is not doing it right, then see to it that they make it fair for as many people as possible, but do not deny a chance to make an improvement upon our polluting behaviour.

ps. fyi Al Gore was advocating for climate change awareness in which he gets critised and ridiculed for in many instances, not the other way around.