It confirms the point that many French are lovers not fighters. Bravo to MC Pierre Calve. He realizes that if we don’t fight the terrorists over there that we will be fighting them here.
God bless all our brave troops.

war is war.the same quebec beople that ate doing this have themselves been bullies,etc.people in glass houses should not throw stones.who is he amongst that has not sinned?i am not saying that the war is a sin but what is the real charachter and history of the people that make these acusations???

Anti-terrorism laws are being subjectively enforced on those with a muslim background, while our aboriginal leaders publicly threaten our transportation sector. I would be surprised if these francaphones. now inciting mutiny, are prosicuted for their part. In previous cases when plans are made to rip the country apart all we do is placate the perpetraitors with handouts and seats in paliament. We don’t need new laws, we need to enforce the laws that exist in an even handed manner.

The Post office can track down the senders of these letters and have them arrested.

All mail addressed to any member of the armed forces and or families can be opened and if nessesary be redirected to help put a stop to this

There is a little thing called the Privacy Act in Canada. To write to families of Canadian soldiers is a violation of their right to privacy. Whatever decisions people make whether it is to serve their country, spray their lawn with chemical pesticides, or get an abortion, it is a matter of personal choice.

This is simply harassment. No one has a right to force their views on others. We live in a democratic society where we certainly have the right to freedom to make an ass of ourselves but we do not have the right to impinge on the freedoms of others.

When will activists be held to account for their violations of the rights of others. Your right is to choose for yourself and your dependent children. You don’t have a right to try to make other people’s decisions. When will we abandon the intimidation practices that have been the legacy of the worst elements of organized labour.

why is the don cherry not commented he has more to say about french canadians than anyone and he has been votsd one of the greatest canadians

I am not sure if we should be in Afganistan but I am sure that Canadians do not commit war crimes as defined by the Geneva convention. By the same token this is not a conventional war with a clearly defined combatant and identifyable civilians. War crimes as such is a modern concept. Invaders of old raped and pillaged everthing in sight.

We should not ask our forces to fight with ambivilance but should fully support them to conduct total war or bring them home.

There is often a thin line between minorities exercising freedom of speech and minorities working to undermine the rest of society by seeking to impose their self-serving views over the bigger society. Part of the problem is that members of the media are clearly attempting to do the same thing by parading each soldier’s death before the public.

The problem is that there is still too much ambiguity in Canada’s position. It needs to be made clearer to the public that this is more than a feel good, boy scout mission with the U.N. - we are at war with terrorists and our military must have the full, undivided support of a war effort!

Most of the so called consientous objectors in the second world war were from Quebec while our troops were giving their lives to free France from the invaders. It has not changed. Our troops are protecting our freedom and that of the Afganistans.

How can these fools accuse our troops of war crimes. Our brave soldiers are there to prevent those morally bankrupt terrorits groups from killing innocent Afghan civilians who only want to have the same basic human rights that we in Canada too often take for granted. Just today terrorists murdered two school girls and wounded several others just for trying to get an education. They murder women for not covering thier faces, they murder people for listening to western music, they murder teachers for trying to educate the Afghan people. Where do the letter writers stand on these real war crimes. Why don’t we don’t hear a peep out of the letter writers about these atrocities? Do they somehow condone them? If these brain dead letter writers cross the line I hope they are prosecuted to the full extent of the law, they need to have their moral compass re-aligned.

In response to the french anti-war protesters at Valcartier PQ

Pointed statement by a senior

Here’s a quote from a government employee who witnessed a recent
interaction between an elderly woman and an antiwar protester in a Vancouver Skytrain station.

There were protesters on the subway platform handing out pamphlets on
the evils of Canada. I politely declined taking one.

An elderly woman was behind me getting off the escalator and a young
(20-ish) female protester offered her a pamphlet, which she politely
declined.

The young protester put her hand on the old woman’s shoulder as a
gesture of friendship and in a very soft voice said, “Lady, don’t you care
about the children of Iraq ?”

The old woman looked up at her and said, “Honey, my father died in
France during World War II, I lost my husband, an RCMP officer in a violent shootout in Alberta, and now a grandson in Afghanistan.

All three died so you could have the right to stand here and bad mouth
our country. If you touch me again, I’ll stick this umbrella up your ass
and open it.”

This type of anti war campaign is sad and deplorable, considering the ruthless enemy these troops are facing.
Our soldiers in Afghanistan, together with their allies there, deserve our gratitude for their courage and sacrifice

M.M. Rudberg

Mike Davis says it all. We need to support our troops, and extend our gratitude to the brave men and women who are willing to put their lives on the line, so that we can rest easy at night.
We can either fight the war on terrorism on their turf or ours. Not much choice there. I wonder how many of the women who are protesting would like to trade places with a woman from Afghanistan? Or how many men, for that matter?
When will these protester realize that the extremist Muslims hate them, hate all Westerners, and would happily destroy us, if they could?

Our first problem is a portion of the press .. who highlight every Canadian death in this war. How do they figure to handle things if there is a WW3. Then there is the gullible groups who seem unable to think .. remember – or read between the lines. Unfortunately this group is reminding those of us who were involved in WW2 of the paucity of Quebecs support. Wherever I served .. it was hard to find a French Canadian .. yet if it wasn’t for mainly the Commonwealth countries and the US .. all of their ancestors would be speaking German now. These uninformed (I would prefer to have used ignorant) groups are not only disrespectful .. but I believe traitorous .. and I hope the RCMP considers this. They are certainly not doing loyal French Canadians any favour with their self serving program.

I don’t understand the people of Quebec so consistantly rejecting fighting for their freedom and yet rejecting those who do fight on their behalf.
Other than the handouts and favoring they receive from the rest of Canada they reject being part of the mainstream of Canadian society.
Perhaps they should have won the first referendum back in 1980. Whatever adjustments were required at the time we would be over them by now and better off for it.

This sedition should be fought with charges and in the courts. Our military staff understand their missions. it is people like this that work against the best interests of our country that fail to understand. They get their marching orders from international socialism.
djc

Since WW11 the Canadian military has not faced an adversary during Peacekeeping or otherwise that was a party to the Geneva Convention. Walk around Afghanistan waving a copy of it will get you no where but dead.

So this is what’s meant by “true patriot love”???

I am so thoroughly disgusted with people like that group and those pacifist losers in our government that think we should just bring the troops home and leave someone else to clean up the mess. The task in Afganistan is not done and it is a part of our international obligation.

Do these pople seriously think that by shrinking behind our porous borders that we are safe from Terrorists. They really need to give their heads a hard shake.

I am appalled that the Decima poll suggests that 60% of Candians think the troops should come home before the job is done. I have to wonder whether the question was framed to get that response.

May God protect and bless all the Canadian soldiers and countrymen who work hard to assist counrtys like Afganistan become a memeber of the family of nations.

I think that the Quebecois, who were a Metis people involved in the French and Indian Wars, would do well to remember their crimes of rape and murder at Fort Oswego and Fort Wiaaliam Henry, New York. Trying to criticise others without mentioning your own brutal past, is hiding the facts.

These Quebecois are the remnants of France’s colonial empire that was defeated in September 1760, by British and British colonial forces at Montreal on September 8, 1760. The humility of being defeated was not enough. France then abandoned her half-breed children by signing the Anglo-French Treaty of Versaiiles on February 10, 1763. Case closed, there are no French in Canada, only British subjects, by reason of the said treaty.

Well said Mike Davis. Pre-enlightenment Taliban minds with 21st century weapons. Now there is a recipe for disaster. Taliban minds need to be confronted with a different opinion. I stand behind our troops as they help to bring individual rights to people who deserve them. May the Taliban enjoy the hell they so richly deserve.

Only 14 years in prison for committing sedition/treason? And our tax dollars will feed and otherwise maintain the guilty? Is this what my grandfather died for, serving Canada in France during WW #1 and which cost him his life over there???

I think the penalty should not be a prison term but, rather, public hanging! Of course, our pussy-footing, laissez-faire government will NEVER agree to THAT!!! That would be “politically incorrect”!

Frankly, I am delighted by the burst of support - not to speak of the articulate statements about our forces and their mission. As a former US Marine, and a Canadian, I have watched the same kind of ruthlessly defeatest and nihilistic mumblings in the US, both during and after Viet Nam, and now presently over Iraq and Afghanistan. This kind of agenda driven behaviour is designed to divide and destroy our society and democracy in North America. These people are the enemies within, who have to be resisted as resolutely as the enemies abroad, and I salute both our troops and those Canadians with the cohones to support them!
Semper Fi!!!

I speak as a veteran of WW2, and I have two points to make.
As many others have said, encouraging members of the armed forces to refuse duty is a criminal act, and those doing so should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Why is this not being done?

Second point — if we had the same media operating in 1939, WWII would have been lost before the end of 1941, and the only Jews alive would be circus animals, displayed in cages.

Those who control our media, especially TV, bear an enormous responsibility which they are not living up to.

Let’s find out who they are and have them charged/fined for their actions. Jail would seem appropriate, don’t you think?

DStone was spot on. The more PMSH solidifies our position on the RIGHT side, the more the leftist media screams. I do NOT believe this recent poll concerning the length of the Afghan mission. I hope Canadians are getting educated about our previous U.N. missions and appreciate a job well done, no matter the length or cost. My very best wishes to our troops in Afghanistan.

Thanks for being our watch dogs, and supporting our troops.
Henry

As long as our naive be nice approach is followed Canada will continue to drift
into a morass of left wing socialism without purpose self discipline and integrity
at home and in the world!!!

Why should anyone be surprised at the behaviour of these so-called “anti-war” groups toward the families of CFB Valcartier? They are card-carrying members of the Left: unrelenting enemies of Western civilization and the liberal-democratic values which sustain it. There is no adversary too vile to collaborate with, no tactic too sleazy and traitorous that they will not resort to, if it will help to achieve their goal of destroying our way of life. They have no clear idea what they will replace it with, but they are crystal-clear about what they hate. In the Taliban, al-Qaeda and the rest of the redical Islamist movement, the Western Left has found people they can do business with. The Islamists, after all, see themselves as being in a war against the West that has been ongoing for 1400 years. When Jack
Layton and the rest of the “moderate” Left remain silent about outrages such as this, or more typically, take issue with them only in mealy-mouthed banalities, there is a reason. With a shifting, hydra-headed adversary with a global reach abroad and an insidious fifth column here at home, it is all the more urgent that we give whatever support we can to our troops in Afghanistan.

Considering the fact that many Canadians seem to want our soldiers out of Afganistan by 2009, the federal government needs to do a better job in convincing the masses the need to remain there until the job is done, never mind putting any time limit on this. As for that group in Quebec making the complaint about us being there, the politics of that province on many issues has been so poorly handled since even before confederation, it is not even worth commenting on.

The leaders of this group should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law/

I will donate to a fund that NCC sets up to finance the harassment, public villification, and ultimate proscution of the senders of theses letters. Let’s USE the laws we have!

Sometime a little perspective helps. About 3,500 Canadians (~10 per day) commit suuidide every year in Canada. Which is approx equal to all the American soldiers that have died in Iraq and, of course, is several times the number of Canadian fatalities in Afganastan. If we want to save Canadian lives they’re looking in the wrong direction. I don’t have stats, but I think the damage and cost and emotional scars to society by that many suicides would exceed our military costs in this campaign.

While Canadian soldiers are accomplishing good things, suicide is only destructive.

Take a look at fatalities for auto collisions where the occupants were not wearing seat belts to gain a similar perspective.

Quebec has always been the province most likely to disagree with any action taken by the RoC - this is because they’ve successfully brain-washed their citizens & distorted history to portray themselves as anti-war peacenicks!! They’ve gone down in our history as “cowards” because they refuse to support the WWII even though it was to defend their “homeland” of France against Nazi Germany. They’ve done it again with this despicable campaign!!

Does the law make any provision for bringing a private prosecution on these matters? Perhaps there is some group with legitimate standing that could undertake that useful task if our government won’t.

How much longer do we have to put up with Quebec? They receive approximately fifty percent (50%) of the Equalization Grants as a “Have Not” province. They were the reason that a politician came up with the idea of the “Official Languages Act” which has cost all of us billions of dollars so we can say we are bilingual and Quebec remains “distinct” with only one official language of French. They have always take more than their share except when it comes to fighting for the freedom of all the country. We can no longer afford to carry Quebec any longer.

Ignorance is not less threatening in Canada than it is in Afghanistan.

During two World Wars French Quebecers insisted it was not their fight and since the wars no one has seen fit to enlighten the uninformed.

It could be that the great concern for the French language and culture has limited the education of French Quebecers. They obviously have never read Nathan M. Greenfield’s book “THE BATTLE OF THE ST. LAWRENCE; THE 2nd WORLD WAR IN CANADA” While French Quebecers were hiding in the woods to escape the war, 21 merchant ships, 4 warships and a ferry were sunk in the ST. Lawrence by German U-boats, some of them right outside Quebec City.

Some of our mouthy and mindless politicians might also benefit from the Greenfield book.

This time around, the U-boats may well be armed with nuclear/biological or chemical weapons.

gee I left Quebec because of those ignorant Leftists there.Now some new groups have come out of the woodwork.This is an outrage to our country and to our soldiers.Please tell them I am sorry they had to hear fro those dopes from Quebec.
grateful to be here in Ontario.
paula moshonas

We will always have the ignorant, the bleeding hearts and the rebels that will stongly object to every good intentioned effort of others. The more attention they achieve the more they think they are suceeding in tearing down, what others try to build.

We should ignore their bleats except for when they break a law and then the law should pounce upon them.

I am more concerned that our Veterans who are now serving overseas are properly acknowledged with health support, homes where necessary and pensions that relate to their conditions. We need the Federal Government to accept their responsibilities for Veterans and not abort their dues to the provinces.

Clearly, the writers of such letters should be tracked down and prosecuted. Inciting a member of Canada’s Armed Forces to refuse to obey a lawful command is a criminal offence and charges should be brought against those persons suspected of doing so.
If convicted, stiff jail terms should be meted in order to make an example of these people and thus send out the message that such treasonous and seditious behaviour will not be tolerated in Canada. God bless and potect our troops.

These cowardly unpatriotic ations coming from the Nation of Quebec (N.of Q) are not surprising. They have never helped anyone else other than themselves even in times of war. They will not fight or protect our country or their homeland France, when it was theatened by Hitler. It is too bad they are still part of Canada when they dislike us so much but they do like the financial help that we pour into their country. Our poor soldiers will no doubt hear about this. Have any soldiers from the Quebec ,VanDoo’s or any other regiment gone to Afghanistan to fight on the front lines like our men have? I do believe there have been some soldiers builidng bridges, schools and are in the back lines in the military hospital. The Rof C supports and loves our brave men.
Dot Fuhrman

While this report is not surprising to me, it is, nevertheless, a national disgrace. Canadians should be demanding our government immediately investigate the source of these seditious letters to our troops’ families. Criminal charges should be brought against the perpetrators, and when found guilty they should receive the maximum sentences for their crimes against Canada. To do less is to give licence to others to promote their Anti-Canadian idealogy across the country. How can we presssure the government to take action?

This action by misguided citizens to undermine morale in our troops falls into the same category as the calls by the NDP and BQ to bring them home right away because they might die in action. So guess if Layton and Duceppe were alive in 1939 our soldiers would not have gone to war to fight Adolf. Compared to number of people dying daily in Canada due to their own negligence the number of soldiers who have been killed in action is surprisingly small given the risk they face. I suppose also that we shouldn’t have police because they might be hurt or killed in the line of duty. Hopefully they peaceniks are exposed and possibly prosecuted and the average person sees through the political opportunism that Jack and Gilles are trying to capture.

DIFFERENTIATE between NATO and UN Security Forces. Bush said terrorists are targetting the WEST and WESTERN way of thinking. Terrorists never said they are targetting the west - they very clearly stated repeatedly they are targetting United States of America for their involvement in other nations’ affairs.

Canada has long had an international role in aiding the progress of peace and stability in war torn nations. We have done so under the umbrella of the United Nations Peace Keeping forces.

But our Prime Minister has our troops fighting under the umbrella of NATO. Terrorists see us in bed with the Americans, and ONLY after doing so has terrorists identified Canada as a target.

Be very clear on this point - Canada has a role to play, and it MUST be as part of an international UN Security Forces peace keeping mission. Otherwise we will be seen as being the same as Americans. We are NOT.

Our Prime Minister must force the issue at the UN Security Council and we must ONLY be in Afghanistan as part of a UN Security Council Peace Keeping mission.

Hi everyone !

I’m from Québec city, and I wanted to say thanks for all the nice comments.

Félix